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MagicMenu 3.0

hi, I tried this application that looks very promosing!
The finder menu hiding works great, but I have some problems with the magicmenu on apps,
When I drag applications on the magicmenu dock icon nothing changed. I first tried with a group of apps, then only with safari 4.0.3 and nothing happened.
The last modification time of the application remains he same.
Am I missing something?
I'm using Tiger 10.4.11

Thanks in advance for the help!

Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:23:34 +0000

Nevermind, I completely misunderstood the usage of your app.
I tried to drag applications to n already opened "MagicMenu ON" on my dock.
Maybe it's only me, but I think you should clarify this in the usage, or even change the behaviour of your app to easily drop applications on the dock icon.
Just my 2 cents.
Keep up the good work!

Tue, 18 Aug 2009 14:22:14 +0000

I'm new to Mac here,
I've downloaded magicmenu.
How do I install it and where do I drag the apps to?
Any help is greatly appreciated

Sat, 22 Aug 2009 17:00:46 +0000

I updated the MagicMenu download page with installation instruction and more detailed instruction on how to use the included utilities. Please take a look at it again. Thanks.

Chieh Cheng
Sat, 22 Aug 2009 20:10:04 +0000

Thanks Chieh, I was able to use MagicMenu. The menu was autohiding itself as soon as I opened up safari.
However yesterday I performed an update and since then it has stopped working.
Even after dragging safari on to it, the menu does not disappear.
Will I have to remove it install again?
Again thanks for your help.

Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:04:45 +0000

Which version of Safari did you upgrade to? Did you quit Safari before dragging it onto MagicMenu? If not, you may have to restart it. I suggest quitting Safari first, drag it onto MagicMenu, and then start it up.

Chieh Cheng
Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:38:09 +0000

Thanks Chieh. restarting worked...

Wed, 26 Aug 2009 00:16:49 +0000

Thank you very much for creating and sharing this app ( that I discovered today :( )
I was using another (PYA) app to hide the menu bar when launching VMWare Fusion, but it only works with Cocoa apps and the new version of VMWare is no longer Cocoa.
Will this app work with Carbon based or any other type of app?
Will this wonder work in Snow Leopard?
I'm trying (in 10.6.1) to no avail.
Am I doing something wrong?

Thanks a lot for your help!

Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:18:47 +0000

I think it'll work with any app that follows the Mac OS X rules.

Unfortunately, I don't have Snow Leopard, so I don't know if it will work with Snow Leopard.

Chieh Cheng
Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:01:20 +0000

I just wanted to add a comment, that MagicMenu does a good job in my os x 10.4.11 on ppc. Initially, nothing worked, because I had Menufela installed (but deactivated) and hiding apps wouldn't work until I uninstalled Menufela (which I wanted to get rid of anyway). So thanks for MagicMenu, as Apple is hiding a really good feature. MagicMenu is even working better than Menufela, I didn't see any glitches so far.

Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:07:44 +0000

I am sorry to say, that my first (good) impressions didn't last for a long time. There is some kind of strange behaviour going on. The menu hiding still works for apps, that I "told" to do that with the scripts, but now in most cases, when I go up with the cursor to show the menu, the finder menu is showing up instead of the menu of the frontmost app. sometimes I get the right menu bar, when I go up and down with the cursor at the top, but often, I have no access to the according menu bar. E.g. the safari (3.2.3) menu shows up about every second time when it should show up and the mail menu (2.1.3) is hiding consequently, also does the preview menu (3.0.9). This only seems to happen, when Finder MagicMenu is On (I hope that the Off mode does not freak out at me, as I write that now :)
There are also problems with an app called Mega Zoom (actually it is a SIMBL plugin, that adds a menu option for apps - a kind of a hack AFAIK), which helps to zoom out apps a bit (something between normal and full screen mode). When I use that with preview, the menu bar won't hide automatically, when turning off Mega Zoom again. But after a restart of preview the menu bar hides again...

I don't think, that MagicMenu is the one to blame, because it just sets a harmless (?) Info.plist setting (Presentation mode, as far as I can see). Maybe these problems wouldn't exist without having Mega Zoom installed, or Apple just doesn't give the option to hide the menu, because there are some complicated problems associated with it... whatever, this is just a feedback for other users of MagicMenu and maybe somebody finds a solution somewhen...

Sun, 29 Nov 2009 23:18:27 +0000

I LOVE MagicMenu! Thank you! So happy you can hide the Mac OS menu bar!!! THANK YOU!!!

Thubten Nyima
Tue, 15 Dec 2009 17:49:31 +0000

Hello. your app has worked great on both the finder and photobooth, the first 2 I tried, however, when I try any other app, such as safari, I get a message saying,

"File alias Macintosh
HD:Users:Desktop:MagicMenu of <<script>> wasn't found."

what should I do?

slightly confused
Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:20:07 +0000

It's probably because you place your favorite MagicMenu utility on your desktop, but not the rest. There are seven utilities in the MagicMenu package. They must all be in the same folder. Basically, that message is saying "MagicMenu" is missing. This library needs to be in the same location as the MagicMenu utility you used.

Chieh Cheng
Fri, 29 Jan 2010 22:44:24 +0000

How can i use MagicMenu? I can find it on system preferences, but i cannot know how make it appear

Sun, 14 Feb 2010 15:32:56 +0000

I don't think you are talking about the same MagicMenu that this web site is talking about. The MagicMenu 3.0 talked about here does not show up in the System Preferences.

Chieh Cheng
Sun, 14 Feb 2010 19:24:07 +0000

cannot uninstall. program will once and again reappear on the panel. please help.

Sat, 24 Apr 2010 08:27:23 +0000

Panel? What are you talking about? MagicMenu makes your top menu bar disappear (auto-hide). It doesn't remove anything from any panel.

Chieh Cheng
Sun, 25 Apr 2010 23:56:09 +0000

Any idea how to remove it completely from my system? I remove it from the system preferences, but it comes back after every restart

Sat, 01 May 2010 20:35:37 +0000

lopexo, I don't know what you are talking about. Because the MagicMenu being talked about here does not show up in the System Preferences in the first place.

Chieh Cheng
Tue, 04 May 2010 16:13:14 +0000

Chieh Cheng i don`t now what drugs you been taking, but MagicMouse IS IN the System Preference..and i have the same problem, i delete that stupid app from my mac, but every time i restart it came back again..

Tue, 18 May 2010 10:30:11 +0000

I'm not taking any drugs. Obviously you are not talking about the MagicMenu that I wrote, which is what this web page is about. I think you need to do a bit of research before posting all over the Internet.

Chieh Cheng
Tue, 18 May 2010 15:25:41 +0000

this works fine for most apps - but it wont work for adobe air apps - have you any idea how to get this working for them? I can send you a sample dummy air app to try it on if you like. I've tried a few - and even edited the file manually using the property list editor (which works fine for other apps too)

thanks very much

Thu, 17 Jun 2010 15:15:11 +0000

Sure, ali. Why don't you attach one of those apps in this thread? Then I'll download it and give it a try.

Chieh Cheng
Fri, 18 Jun 2010 14:50:08 +0000

when using magicmenu on macbook pro, it tells me I need to install "Rosetta"..? Is this correct? I am also running snow Leopard.
- Mike

Sat, 31 Jul 2010 21:39:29 +0000

Mikey, I suspect that you are not talking about the same MagicMenu that this web site is talking about.

Chieh Cheng
Sun, 01 Aug 2010 05:50:43 +0000

j'ai installer "Finder MagicMenu Off" et ma barre de menu et mon dock se cache automatiquement.
Comment je peux desinstaller Finder MagicMenu Off

Mon, 13 Sep 2010 16:42:57 +0000

juju, use "Finder MagicMenu On" to reverse the effect.

Chieh Cheng
Mon, 13 Sep 2010 19:49:37 +0000

je l'ai fais et rien ne change....

Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:53:21 +0000

Did you reboot your computer? Change won't take effect until you reboot.

Chieh Cheng
Tue, 14 Sep 2010 07:25:20 +0000

I would also like to know how I can only hide the menubar and have the dock always visible - can't figure it out how to do this - does anyone know how ?

Tue, 14 Sep 2010 18:29:16 +0000

To keep the Dock visible:
Apple Menu -> Dock -> Turn Hiding Off

Chieh Cheng
Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:28:00 +0000

The poster "Mikey" (July 31, 2010) is correct–those of us using 10.6 without Rosetta installed can't use these droplets. Either you have, or the systems think you have, saved them as PPC AppleScript apps. I suspect that they simply need to be recompiled from an Intel-based system.

Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:24:32 +0000

DaveD, I don't see how that's possible, as MagicMenu is compiled on Intel Mac. We do not have any PPC Mac's. Perhaps, if you show us an error message screen shot, we can figure it out.

Chieh Cheng
Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:49:35 +0000

I downloaded MagicMenu, I want to get rid of the program. But every time I put it in the trash and clear it and restart, it still makes the top menu hide. Someone please help me uninstall this!

Sun, 26 Sep 2010 00:28:51 +0000

You have to disable MagicMenu prior to uninstalling it. Re-install MagicMenu, disable it in all the program instances, where you enabled it. Then uninstall it.

Chieh Cheng
Sun, 26 Sep 2010 06:45:20 +0000

Hey, I tried using Magic Menu, but I can't get it to work. If I try opening any scripts, I get this message:
What should I do?

Wed, 06 Oct 2010 14:06:22 +0000


What operating system, version, etc? How did you activate "MagicMenu Toggle"?

Attaching the error message screen for easy reference:

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Chieh Cheng
Wed, 06 Oct 2010 18:48:39 +0000

SL 10.6.3
I just downloaded Magic Menu, opened the folder which was located in the Downloads folder. I tried opening any of the scripts but they come up with the same error message.

Wed, 06 Oct 2010 18:54:10 +0000

Only three of those files are to be opened by double-clicking (the ones that starts with Finder). The other three are to be opened by drag-and-dropping applications onto them. The library is not meant to be opened any other way.

Can you be more specific on how you are trying to open each one? Did you make a folder for all these files?

Chieh Cheng
Thu, 07 Oct 2010 20:10:39 +0000

I meant no matter which script I open, that error still pops up. I tried just opening the ones with Finder on it and I got it again. I also tried dragging an application (Safari) onto MagicMenu On and it STILL pops up.

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Thu, 07 Oct 2010 23:56:43 +0000

Have you unzipped everything into a directory? Are all of the files in the same unzipped directory?

Chieh Cheng
Fri, 08 Oct 2010 20:05:17 +0000

Yes, the entire Magic Menu folder is located in my Downloads folder.

Fri, 08 Oct 2010 22:52:15 +0000

That's very strange. I have never seen that problem before. I'm not sure what's causing it, Joshua. Other users have tried MagicMenu 3.0 with Mac OS X 10.6.2 and mentioned that it works. Right now, I'm clueless to why it is failing on your system.

Chieh Cheng
Sat, 09 Oct 2010 05:24:55 +0000

Ah, oh well. I guess it's not meant to be, haha. Thanks for trying anyway!

Sat, 09 Oct 2010 12:25:44 +0000

I couldn't help myself and went ahead and installed a pre-release version of Lion. MagicMenu no longer works because PowerPC apps are no longer supported. Despite Lion's foray into fullscreen modes for applications, I miss the clean interface I had when running in window mode.

Too make a long story short; what can be done?


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Sun, 27 Feb 2011 19:32:31 +0000


MagicMenu Off didn't work for me as I tried drag the application on to it, autohide menu bar still on as I relaunch the application even I reboot. Please somebody help me.

Mac OSX 10.6.6

Tue, 15 Mar 2011 04:14:44 +0000

My apology, it was because that damn SIMBL MenuBarHider plugin still active that wont let magicmenu provoke MagicMenu Off, thats why I got stuck with it.

Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:08:43 +0000

I am having a problem with my bittorrent client, Transmission 2.22 (12099). I added it to the magicmenu list, which works no problem but now Transimission is no longer properly communicating with torrent sites. They seem to think I am downloading multiples of the same torrent and do not know when I stop seeding. Have you heard of this before?

Sun, 08 May 2011 09:04:16 +0000

I don't understand what you mean by "I added it to the magicmenu list". There is no MagicMenu list. I suspect you may be talking about a different MagicMenu than the one being discussed here.

Chieh Cheng
Mon, 09 May 2011 16:17:13 +0000

"I don't understand what you mean by "I added it to the magicmenu list".

I mean I dropped the application icon onto the script, as per instructions. Also, I discovered that the problem was not related to magicmenu. One other question I have is; is there a way for me to see a list of apps that I have activated the magicmenu script for? When I first got magicmenu I dropped a ton of apps onto the script but now I can't remember which ones I did and which ones I didn't. Can I see without having to test every single one?

Wed, 11 May 2011 23:21:16 +0000

Ok. I get it. The misunderstanding is that there is no MagicMenu list. When you drop an application onto MagicMenu, MagicMenu changes the setting in the application itself.

At this time, there is no way to pull up a list of apps that is set one way or another. However, being able to see a list of apps and their states seems like a good idea. I'll add it to the list of enhancements.

Chieh Cheng
Thu, 12 May 2011 16:05:25 +0000

how do i uninstall magic menu ?

Peter Ewart
Sun, 15 May 2011 09:08:41 +0000

See this thread: How to Uninstall Magic Menu?

Chieh Cheng
Mon, 16 May 2011 05:30:02 +0000

I hope you are planning an update for OsX Lion. Love it Thanx in advance.

Wed, 15 Jun 2011 15:22:32 +0000

I do not have a computer with OS X Lion. Have you tried it? Does it work on Lion?

Chieh Cheng
Thu, 16 Jun 2011 23:31:05 +0000

No, it is not compatible with OS X Lion -- see earlier screenshot. MagicMenu is (or Lion thinks it is) PPC code and all PPC code has been deprecated as of Lion.

Tue, 05 Jul 2011 07:10:16 +0000

I too would love to see this app in lion!!

Mon, 25 Jul 2011 02:03:09 +0000

Everything works as it's supposed to with one issue. I have the app, Sleepless, and it won't work if MagicMenu is active.



dorian mattar
Sat, 06 Aug 2011 06:16:33 +0000

I found an app which also hides the menu and it works in lion

Sun, 21 Aug 2011 21:57:06 +0000

but don't use with text editor or preview, else they brake

Sun, 21 Aug 2011 22:00:01 +0000

the app docker also hides menubar

Sat, 27 Aug 2011 09:30:15 +0000

One glitch I noticed; if you use the 'quickview' (spacebar) built into mac osx 10.6 and turn on full screen it deactivates the finderMenuMagic. you have to logoff or restart and its activated again. maybe you guys can fix this in an update?!? Thanks so much - great plug-in!!!

Fri, 09 Sep 2011 22:33:59 +0000

What are the chances of you developing this app for lion in the future so as to have a clean desktop free from the menu ? AS this is stoping me from upgrading just now

just thought i'd ask

Tue, 04 Oct 2011 20:04:40 +0000

At this time, we do not have any computers with the Mac OS X Lion operating system. Therefore, we have no plans to test or upgrade this software for Lion.

Chieh Cheng
Tue, 04 Oct 2011 20:20:59 +0000

Have installed MagicMenu in my Utilities Folder. Clicking any of the scripts merely asks for my password. Then nothing happens. Yes, I rebooted after installation.

What am I doing wrong/not doing?

Running G5 iMac with Leopard 10.5.8.

Fri, 04 Nov 2011 01:01:54 +0000

It may be working. Asking your password is normal operation. It needs permission to change system settings. Did you provide the correct password?

Read the MagicMenu download page, under the "Bundled Utilities" section, for instruction on how to use each of the utilities. The three utilities associated to Finder can be activated by double-clicking. The other three utilities will only work if you drag-and-drop application(s) onto them.

Let me know if this solves your problem. If not, let's go through an exercise with one of the utilities. Pick one and give you step-by-step detail on how you used it.

Chieh Cheng
Fri, 04 Nov 2011 02:04:31 +0000

I'm having the same problem as Klaus1. I'm running OS 10.6.8 on a MacBook Air. I'm using the right password (I'm certain it's the right one, and the system does not give me any error message saying it is the wrong password), and dragging apps onto 'MagicMenu On' or clicking 'Finder MagicMenu On'. It just has no effect - the menu bar still remains for those apps.

Tue, 08 Nov 2011 22:00:03 +0000

People, unfortunately MagicMenu isn't supported by Lion yet, but you can still hide the top menubar doing manually what MagicMenu did automatically for you.
Follow the instruction found in either of the following webpages: . . . . . .

Tue, 22 Nov 2011 00:20:29 +0000

Hey just wanted to say this is awesome! I really like the extra screenspace and minimalist style I have now. Something I just noticed is when using Chrome, if I switch to full-screen mode and then back to regular mode, the menu bar is stuck again. I guess it makes sense though, as Chrome's full-screen mode is messing with the menu bar. Thanks!

Wed, 23 Nov 2011 05:46:02 +0000


osx 10.6.8 and Finder did work but can't run MagicMenu where I draged MagicMenu and I get an error:"Its info.plist can't be found" I tryed download it several places but no luck... :/

(it also said:"its mac os x application...")

Thanks for any help...

Sun, 08 Jan 2012 22:06:21 +0300

I'm not understanding what you are trying to do. Please describe "can't run MagicMenu where I draged MagicMenu" more clearly. Thanks.

Chieh Cheng
Mon, 09 Jan 2012 03:02:03 +0300

hey.. magicmenu works well on all my apps.. however i d like to report a bug. when i open safari app it opens with the default window size. i have to resize it manually. new tabs in the already open safari app opens like how its supposed to. it wud b nice if u include an instructions document in the zip file. i think this app is wonderful and apple should integrate it into their os. i have some amazing wallpapers and thanks to this app i can use them without the finder menu sticking out and reminding us where we r. thank u chieh for this amazing app.
Tue, 13 Mar 2012 06:46:57 +0300

Can you give it a nicer interface and a cool icon.

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Tue, 13 Mar 2012 07:38:09 +0300

Just installed Mountain Lion and to my dismay Magic Menu is incompatible
So disappointed
Best third party app EVER

David Kelly
Thu, 23 Aug 2012 20:06:32 +0400

I think this application is great, yet, I tried to install it (MAC OSX 10.8) and it says that powerpc files are no longer accepted.
Are you planning to make a newer version?


Jorge Gonzalez
Wed, 12 Dec 2012 17:58:56 +0300

Hi! I am on Mavericks and would love to be able to hide/disable the menus for specific apps with MagicMenu 3.0.

But like others have reported, I'm getting the "You can't open the application "MagicMenu ..." because PowerPC applications are no longer supported." message!!! ( I also can't access 'Show Package Contents' on any of your .app files like I can pretty much every other application on my Mac; I wonder if you could possibly update MagicMenu to work on Mavericks for us all? :)


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Excerpt: Yes, 10.6 is Snow Leopard and MagicMenu works beautifully on it. Regarding Spotlight Manager, it could just be an issue of the spotlight plist being in a different folder though I couldn't find it. I've tried to search several folders, in fact, and I can't locate it. Happy to help as much as I am ab . . .
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Title: Auto-Hide MagicMenu While Keeping the Dock Visible
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Excerpt: I have enabled the 'Finder MagicMenu On' script and it works! My only question; how to I keep the menu bar hidden but the dock always visible. I've had a hell of a time trying to pull this one off. Thanks in advance!
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